Video: Perry calls Gingrich a ?conservative visionary?

>> reporter: thinks may be too liberal for the party.

>> thank you, john. let's bring in steve who endorsed newt.

>> good to see you.

>> let's start off with what happened here, 34 votes. rick santorum said i am the victor here. we have new sound from him. let me play it and get your thoughts on the other side.

>> there have been two primaries held now. we have won one. it's been certified in iowa. i think it's important to understand not only if you win the certified vote, but if you add the other vote, we'd win by more.

>> did rick win this even though you have the missing ballots out there?

>> maybe i went to public school , but i thought certify the results and one person had more votes than the other, that means they won. i don't know. maybe we become a banana republic overnight. i think he can safely assume he won.

>> how does that impact south carolina ?

>> i think it has a huge impact in south carolina just because you have to look at it in the context of the rest of the vents events that you were talking about. this might be the week mitt romney lost the republican nomination. he won an election where half the vote were democrats and independents. now he's turning tail in south carolina . newt gingrich is surging there. they are beginning to colease. they understand mitt romney is more like obama.

>> you say the conservatives are starting to coalesce. this comes for an interesting time of the guy you want to back. gingrich's ex-wife has given an explosive interview. let me play an excerpt and what newt said this morning in anticipation of this fire storm . what he said on the " today show ". let's play them both.

>> he said, yes, but you want me all to yourself. calista doesn't care what i do.

>> what was he saying?

>> he was asking to have an open marriage and i refused.

>> he wanted an open marriage ?

>> yeah. that i accept the fact he has somebody else in his life.

>> and you said?

>> no. no. that is not a marriage.

>> i'm not going to say anything negative about mary ann . my two daughters have sent a letter to the president of abc news saying this is totally wrong. they think abc should not air anything like this.

>> let me get your thoughts on what marianne had to say.

>> it's always heartbreaking any time a marriage comes to an end. we're talking about things that happened a decade, if not more than that a long ago. i start thinking about the person i was 15 years ago. i think my wife would say i'm a lot different compared to the person that she married. some of the things that she wants to allege about newt are probably things i would have been if favor of 15 years ago. i'm a different person and i've grown up then.

>> you would have been in favor of open marriage . i don't want to get in your business.

>> listen, 15 years ago before god saved me and gave me a new life, i would have tried to see if i could have a bigger porn collection than ron jeremy . i was a different guy. never in a million years do did i think i would be sitting here taking positions i am now. that's the difference faith makes in your life. i think your do two daughters and two sons-in-law, they know you best over the long haul. those are some pretty powerful character witnesses.

>> you're saying what rick perry said when he decided to endorse newt gingrich in believes his faith allows him to forgive and you can turn your life over and present a new human being . we know that newt has a difficult time attracting female voters. that, yes, you may be a different person ten years later, however, to see his wife talk about the woman he is currently with who is standing by him, who he refers to today in every other sentence and this notion of respecting and honoring mairj, at that time, he had very little, if her story is true, respect or regard now wants to define or accept the definition of marriage in some sanctimonious way. ten years in his time is not that much of time.

>> everything you said makes sense but there's grace. you look at some of the great figures in the judaoe christian tradition . peter was a coward and a liar. david was an adulterer. we have seen this. this is the way god works. he works the greatest thing through the most broken people. if people want to look at newt's life and they don't think they see enough of that sort of change then voters have the right to make that call. i've seen that evidence of that change.

>> i don't want to get into a debate over religion because that's anyone's thought to believe and share their thoughts. this is the same person who on stage appears to show very little compassion or in your words, grace, for poor people . this is the same man who appealed to an audience to applaud when a gay soldier was featured in a debate or when conversation about health care and someone dying, what should be done for this individual, he did not stand up and say for the grace that has granted me the person that i am now have grace on these people. he worked it for the audience to applaud him. where is that grace then?

>> i don't think there's anything more graceful for your fellow human beings to brake the shackle ls and meet your god given potential. there's nothing more compassionate than telling somebody you are better than where you are now. we can put the policies and things in place for you to reach that god-given potential. god has a better plan of your life than to be a ward of the state .

>> will newt gingrich pull out a victory in south carolina ?

>> i believe he's going to win on saturday, yes.

>> i hope to see you on saturday. very interesting day. thank you.

>> thank you.

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